terça-feira, 14 de abril de 2015

Voltamos ao duelo de espada para resolver os nossos desacordos...


Nigel Farage o lider do UKIP, partido que defende medidas mais restritivas para os emigrantes, bem como a saída da GB da Comunidade Europeia, queixou-se de engarrafamentos provocados pelos polacos numa das principais autoestradas do Reino. 

É agora desafiado por um ilustre desconhecido Príncipe Polaco para um duelo de espada, que pode não ter lugar, se a espada de Nigel estiver enferrujada. Yanek Zylinski, assim se chama o nobre Polaco, propõe como alternativa um debate na televisão. Enfim, um duelo mais de acordo com os nosso tempos.

Interessante os comentários feitos no Youtube por britânicos e polacos sobre o video, em particular sobre a emigração deste últimos para a GB. Aqui fica a minha escolha:

English Comment:

Britons can easily go to Poland, but the fact is, why would Britons want to go to Poland? It is poor. That is why it's not a fair deal.

When the EU only contained the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, Germany etc. it was fair, because we all had similar living standards.

But as soon as you open the door for poor people to move to rich countries, they will move. If I was Polish I'd move to the UK, or France, or Germany etc.

I don't think that Poles 'steal jobs'. But, I'd like to be able to control our own borders, so that we can admit the educated Poles and reject the uneducated Poles. What is wrong with that? Also, it seems like common sense to me to reject those who have life threatening diseases. Nowadays 60% of all new HIV cases in the UK are non-British citizens.

British Comment:

No one in the UK hates Poles......no one blames Poles for coming here. We blame out politicians for opening the door to former communist countries. The human traffic was only ever going to be one way.

Your English is perfect.......you didn't make any mistakes.

British Comment:

I agree. This is how most of us Brits feel.

Polish Comment:

"why would Britons want to go to Poland?"

To drink like a hell, make a mess and act as the lords of the world. Ask any restaurant owner in Cracow. Also Brits come to Poland as English teachers, sales reps,... invest and run businesses.

"It is poor."

Well, Poland is poorer than UK, but is catching up quite quickly. BTW, have you been to Poland to see it on your own eyes?

"When the EU only contained the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands...."

Spain as a rich country? Similar living standards as in UK? Since when? It could be true in... 16 century.

"I don't think that Poles 'steal jobs'."

So what's your problem?

Even if they do, it means that a fellow with not so "compatible" education, with a weak knowledge of local language can "steal jobs" from locals... Than what makes those whom these jobs are stolen from? Third degree morons??? 

" But, I'd like to be able to control our own borders..."

OK, so stop to sell your products to "former communist countries" or for matter of fact - to the rest of the world. The fair deal is not about; I sell you an apple and you sell me an apple. In the most cases the fair trade is about exchange of different products and services. 

"we can admit the educated Poles and reject the uneducated Poles. What is wrong with that?"

What's wrong? You've just said that Poles don't steal your jobs. So where is a logic in your claim, if uneducated and educated immigrants can find jobs in UK without stealing them from Brits? You are contradicting yourself.

What about if only highly educated Brits could go to Canaries for vacation?

"it seems like common sense to me to reject those who have life threatening diseases. Nowadays 60% of all new HIV cases in the UK are non-British citizens."

Dude, are seriously wanna say that majority of (uneducated?) Poles are HIV positive LOL You have enough "British citizens" from former colonies who can easily fill up statistics ;-)

"No one in the UK hates Poles..."

I live in Canada. That country is full of "non-hated" Poles, ejected by British after WWII. I'm aware that's a history, not relevant to nowadays, but we also have newer immigrants with similar stories. 

No, you don't hate Poles. You just think you are better than them.... and you show it. In part it is also a political correctness; it's just easier to pick up on Poles, Czechs, Hungarian than on ... darker shades...

"We blame out politicians for opening the door to former communist countries"

But you still want to visit other countries and sell you goods, right?

UK & USA sold those countries to Soviets in Teheran and Yalta. And before that the Anglo-Polish military alliance from 1939 was in effect. When Nazis invaded Poland you did not move a finger. Poland fielded the third biggest army among the European Allies in WWII. But on the London Victory Celebrations parade in 1946, Polish forces were not invited, though...

It means that you made those "communist" countries poor. So please be the man and stop outcry.

Cheers

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